Knocked Out By Webb!

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I will start this post by congratulating the team and the King for a wonderful performance. We may have been knocked out of a cup which has little significance this season, but we bow out with heads held high. I was tremendously impressed by Dalglish’s substitutions. He was spot on and to me that shows that he hasn’t lost touch with football management. The future looks bright under the auspices of Kenny!

I posted this brief article to highlight how wrong Howard Webb was in giving the penalty barely half a minute after kick-off. The image hereunder shows the incident in six frames. The first shot (1) depicts Berbatov and Agger right after the pass was made to the United striker. Nothing much here. Frame (2) shows Berbatov in a sudden burst forward with Agger quick to react although, inevitably, he was left lagging a foot behind. Frames (3) and (4) are the focal point of the whole incident. Agger thinks he can tackle Berbatov and deprive him of the ball (3) but re-thinks and pulls off at the last moment (4). In frame (4) Berbatov is evidently stable on his feet, however a few milli-seconds later, frame (5), he blatantly initiates a dive which ultimately led to Webb awarding the penalty. Amateurish decision I must say. A decision which forced Liverpool to throw caution to the wind from the start. The video clip can be watched here: http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/01/09/manchester-united-1-0-liverpool-fa-cup-third-round-highlights-video/.

Click on the image below to have a full left-to-right view of the incident.

Agger not at fault for the penalty awarded by Webb.

** Adding a frame from the Gerrard incident too – isn’t this showing two players “going” for the ball with intent? Nothing malicious and anyone could have been hurt! So why send off Stevie?! One can also note that Webb had his back to both players initially and couldn’t see Carrick throw himself towards the ball. He only saw the last part of the action when Gerrard and Carrick are in close proximity. To me, Webb jumped the gun and assumed Gerrard was at fault. Case for an appeal here!

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42 Comments

    1. Fergie must be having nightmares at Dalglish’s appointment as LFC manager…In his words “I never thought he’d resurface“. Says it all!

    1. Sour what? We were equal to whatever you threw at us, could have snatched an equaliser and all this with 10-men and playing away from home. See you at Anfield.

  1. @Red_Devil:you have alot of fucking time on your hand,logging into a LFC website to display your stupidity,you f****** manc twat twa

  2. Dalglish’s selection and formation would only have been good enough to get a draw. The lack of pace in the midfield makes it very difficult for the team to counterattack away from home. For the game against Blackpool Dalglish need’s to make a few significant changes to the lineup. I would leave Kelly at rightback and put Johnson on the rightwing. I would move Agger into centremidfield alongside Lucas. I would put Meireles behind Torres. I would put Wilson in at centreback alongside Skyrtel.

  3. Team selection was the best possible. Good set-up of team and obvious instructions to pass and believe in ability. Excellent early subs. Giving youth a chance. Commitment from the players. Massive fan support. It’s a long hard road ahead but the season starts today. About time. Welcome back Kenny.

  4. Very difficult to get numbers forward with only 10 men at
    OT. Must keep same back four against Blackpool but Johnson is a
    possibility on the right. Lucas central with Meireles is ok with 11
    men on the pitch.

  5. Berbatov dived, no question about it. And conceding so
    early definitely changed the direction of the game. Stevie’s a
    legend but I can’t complain about the red. If any of the Mancs
    jumped in on one of our boys like that I’d be screaming for red
    too. Reckless challenge and totally needless in that part of the
    field. In my books, Webb’s penalty decision was a disgrace but I
    can’t fault him for sending Stevie off.

  6. Refs criticised last week for bottling decisions – notably
    surprise surprise Foy in WEst Brom / Man U game. Webb’s bottled
    enough in his time. I guess he felt like he had to make a point
    that he can make big calls. Webb will be rubbish in plenty of other
    games this season that do not involve Liverpool. And, we’re
    constantly told he’s the best this country has to offer.

  7. I was so dumb struck when that early penalty. Was awarded, why webb is so stupid I don’t know
    He could not give De jong a red card on the Kung fu kick on xabi alonso but have gerrard sent of for trying to reach a ball

  8. I wholeheartedly agree with everything except the Stevie G’s sending off. It was a two footed challenge and the studs were up. And Dalglish’s reaction watching the replay said it all. But horrendous decision for the penalty. Hate Howard Webb.
    That being said, I don’t know if it’s the optimism due to a change. But it was good to see Jonjo, Kelly and Babel given extremely confident run ins. They are our future, and well our present too. Come on, more of Pacheco too, please.

  9. With Kelly looking so good at right back Iwould like to see
    Johnson converted to right wing, if you judge the success Spurs
    have had with Bale a converted fullback on the wing and Coleman at
    Everton who has been one of their best players this season

  10. Just can’t figure out why Stevie would do that. Carrick’s
    at the halfway line and not really in a threatening position (plus
    he’s crap). It’s a shame – with Stevie on the field I feel the game
    was there for the taking as Utd weren’t that great. We could have
    bossed the midfield comfortably in the second half; I thought Lucas
    grew in influence as the game progressed. And I was hugely
    impressed with Martin Kelly.

  11. Very poor refereeing 1 never a penalty 2 Howard webb is a
    complete muppett what is wrong with 2 players trying to win a 50 50
    ball maybe the tackle warrented a yellow but thats it.On a more
    positive note the whole team looks much better. Welcome back KING
    KENNY YNWA

  12. No penalty – Not red card. This should be (at least) a 0-0
    or a win for us and a replay at anfield. Today i have seen a
    possitive mood from 13 of our playes but a very poor approach by
    Torres. I’m sure Daglish will have a word with him though.

  13. I will happily admit the penalty was incorrect, Berba
    ‘chose’ to go down from extremely minimal contact. The Gererd red
    card was correct though, you can say two players went for the ball
    but he lunged in with TWO feet and both feet off the ground, by the
    letter of the law it was a straight red. I gaurantee an appeal will
    be turned down.

  14. Never thought that I will ever see the day! Liverpool fans
    HAPPY to be defeated by the hated Manchester United knocking them
    out of every competition in England by early January. How far have
    the mighty fallen!

  15. How is that sour? You’s cheated plain and simple, and the
    ref was clearly on United’s side, not only proven by the penalty
    that should never have been given, but the two footed tackle on
    Raul Meireles that wasn’t even called as a foul not 20 seconds
    before Gerrard’s tackle on Carrick. One man down and we still
    played better, and didn’t resort to dirty tactics like diving for a
    cheap goal.

  16. who the f*** are you? noone said we were happy about losing
    to the scum! We’re happy cos the team put in a good performance
    despite being royally screwed by the referee. We’re happy because
    maybe, just maybe, this performance is a sign of things to come.
    We’re happy because one tof this clubs greatest ever managers, not
    to mention it’s favourite son, has returned to the seat to try and
    revive it’s past glories. This may not be the ‘second coming’ that
    we all want it to be, but if there’s one thing football fans love
    to do, it’s hope. Get of your damn high-horse.

  17. Phew, Berba just felt Danny touching him and throwed
    himself on the ground. And to such an extent!! And Webb…a real
    “genius” during World Cup final (haha) and now continuing with this
    shit. Fifa needs to “produce” better referees. I also don´t
    complain about Stevie´s red, because in my opinion it was deffo a
    red card! But this is not to compare to a loss with LFC playing
    really bad! That´s something different. I.e. I´m not that
    devastated today. Fergie calling Nando a cheat…this man just
    needs to shut up when it´s too much talking (crap). Nando wasn´t
    really Nando today, I admit, but we know how he normally does and
    we know (or at least hope) he´ll get back. Poor birthday for Lucas.
    But I like how he´s improving.

  18. Come on you manc shitheads. Let’s show some pride and put
    on webb’s kit to show your pride and support for your team. What a
    shit ref.

  19. Just back from the game, delighted with todays performance.
    Looking forward to seeing the lads after a few weeks on the
    training ground. All bodes well for the future. Good call FSG.
    Welcome back Kenny.

  20. Benny boy, never thought I WOULD ever see the day. You’ve knocked us out the cup that’s all and you’ve won sweet fa at the moment idiot.

  21. Mr Webb Killed a good passionate game today, Why? Beacause
    he is a CHEAT. 5 letters sum him up. CHEAT. Watch the replays. He
    was in a poor possition to see Berbatov falling over, but presumed
    otherwise. Rafael jumped in with two feet showing studs and should
    have been carded, maybe yellow and the CHEAT let play carryon.
    Gerrard committed the same offence when play should have been
    stopped for Rafaels infringement. Bad Ref and a bad CHEAT. Vidio
    evidence over the last two to three years WILL prove that mr webb
    is not capable of refereeing top flight football. Every good
    football fan wants to see a good passionate game of football played
    on level terms. We know that Refs get it wrong sometimes but webb
    is taking the P!!S. Maybe betting irregularities should be looked
    at when webbies in town

  22. Liverpool are too lightweight and slow in midfield.
    Meireles and Lucas are not good enough away from home. I would
    leave Shelvey in on the leftwing against Blackpool as Aurelio will
    need protection against Blackpool and Shelvey has more running
    power and pace than Maxi. Wilson has played in the Champions
    League, it is time he was given his chance in the Premiership.
    Agger is wasted at centreback, his ability on the ball should be
    utilised in central midfield as a playmaker. Kelly must be left at
    rightback for the rest of the season. Johnson must be put on the
    rightwing for the rest of the season. Put Kuyt behind Torres for
    the next 3 matches while Gerrard is out. Meireles needs to bulk up,
    he was brushed aside too often against United, he has not scored
    yet and that fact cannot be overlooked. Liverpool are too
    predictable in the way all the goals seem to be expected to be
    scored by Torres. Liverpool need to start utilizing setpieces
    better as they are one of the poorest teams in the Premiership to
    do this. Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham have all scored far
    more goals from direct freekicks in front of the opposition box in
    the last 5 years.

  23. RED CARD all day long. If Rooney had caught Torres with that tackle we’d be baying for blood.

  24. Berbatov has been reprimanded by fergie for diving in the player’s bath too much.

    Mn utd have unveiled their new spnsors- speedo.

    berbatov received his reward for his motm performance today- trunks and goggles.

    Berbatov and nani have spoken of how they were developed as man utd players earlier in their careers- they went on to say that they were both ‘chucked in at the deep end’- however, they have both learnt to dive extremely proficiently.

    nani and berbatopple are planning a new celebration should they win at wembley this year- instead of the customary lap of honour they are intending to to the 100m freestyle relay.

    nani and berbatov are reaping the rewards of their rigorous new training regime devised on 31/10/10- duckapple.

    berbatov was hauled up before the board last week. he was ok with the 3m springboard but bottled out on the high diving board.

    Berbatov, you are a cheat- same as that other tool, nan’c’i.

  25. has anyone considered the real reason for the attacck – the world cup final, this probably accuonts for webs anti liverpool (dutch) bias he stunk on his big day and blames the dutch team, the dutch team blamed him.

  26. Webb is wellknown as a manure fan and always act to impress the red nose cheat/liar. He repeatedly ignores manure’s aggression particularly from fletcher, carrick, ferdinand, vidic, so they get away with it all the time. Notice how nani and evra would rant at that submissive webb? So stupid to let the cheat berbatov have a penalty, a diver who fell on purpose at minimal contact. Berbatov should have got a yellow card for that. And Gerard didnt deserve a red, only a yellow.

    A draw would have been fair result.

  27. really good with those pictures lad, we all know Steven is
    a fair player and would be daft to compromise his teams future in
    such a big game. Webb is not right with this decision, not
    close.

    1. Gerrard should have been given a yellow card, full stop. Both players went in gung-ho style although Stevie’s tackle was a tad more forceful, hence the yellow card in my view. Never, ever should a red been given. Worse still, and I encourage readers to watch the video clip, is Webb witnessing less than half of the action, evidence of poor refereeing. Liverpool must appeal. What I find disgraceful is that Webb was already involved in a similar penalty incident at Old Trafford; April 2009 (I believe) against Spurs…controversial penalty awarded to Manu. Yet, he was allowed to officiate such a big encounter at Old Trafford.

  28. Not a liverpool fan, but without a shadow game robbed, what a surprise, it’s man united.Webb is a disgrace, not a penalty, never, rafael make a horse tackle, but not carded, everybody knows if carricks doing that, he would never gets the red (it’s man united after all). You see every week things so much worse than the Gerrard tackle, and they are not carded. It’s not the first time, that he damages such a game for the benefcit of united.

    I’m serously worried, if a team playing as shit as manchester unietd win the PL, the EPL is finished. I really hope for the sake of the football game, that this team doean’t win, they are first but awful, the most awful leader in the last 100 years of the story of the EPL, and i have seen a lot football, i’m not joking. If they win it ‘ll be the greatest joke in football history. I Know unietd used to have a so big team and beautiful football, but this time is finish, we want to see new thinks, and not only the old Ferguson.

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