It’s become apparent on this website just how bitter Mancunian’s are towards Liverpool fans. United fans sell shirts saying ‘Justice for the 39’ in reference to the 39 people who tragically lost their lives at the Heysel Stadium Disaster in 1985. Many claim this is to stand up for those who lost their lives, but we all know that’s just a cover.
Most United supporters know very little about what went on that day in May, they also don’t know much about what went on after it. They shout, sing and make sick T-Shirts about ‘Justice for the 39’ without really knowing what they’re talking about, they use 39 lost lives to points score against Liverpool fans and mock our campaign for Justice for the 96 that lost their lives at Hillsborough.
You see, in reality, justice was done in the proper way for those that died at Heysel. After trials in Belgium fourteen Liverpool supporters were given 3-year sentences for involuntary manslaughter. Those responsible for what went on were prosicuted, or at least most of them were. Compare this to Hillsborough and there’s a huge difference. David Duckenfield, the officer in carge on the day was never found guilty despite making major mistakes.
Liverpool supporters have also apologised for what happened, going as far as to setting up a mosaic on the Kop. yes, it was nearly 20 years after the disaster but it was still a fitting tribute. 5-a-side games with Juventus fans before games have also been organised, to try and build bridges with the supporters of the Italian club, especially those who lost family and friends at Heysel.
So, Manchester United have shown their bitterness with this time and time again. They don’t know what they’re talking about when they shout for ‘justice for the 39’ all they know is it annoys us. They also know it’s using the dead to points score against opposition fans, they know it mocks our shouts for ‘justice for the 96 and of course we know justice has never been done for those that died at Hillsborough, Heysel, as I’ve explain, is a different story all together. People who were responsible have been sent down, it’s now just Manchester United fans using the dead to insult us.
M. Owen
michael@empireofthekop.com
Great post Michael, you know after the Barcelona game a United fan in Nigeria killed 4 Barcelona fans.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/28/nigeria-manchester-united_n_208608.html
Ironically when I brought this story up, the answer was “That African Dude?”. So what they do not consider foreign supporters? If my calculation is correct 90% of United supporters live outside the UK.
This has happened here in Lebanon as well. They have called our club criminals, and that we are the worst club in England. Now 50% of them support Real Madrid.
Justice was done for Heysel, Hillsborough 96 families await justice. Munich was ManU’s Hillsborough, and every LFC fan I know gives homage to the dead of Munich. Football first. Then team. Football.
From what I’ve seen, it’s usually the ‘plastic’ fans who tend to sing about Hysel and Hillsborough. The fans who think that the league only started in ’92, and who wouldn’t know who Denis Law and Duncan Edwards were if they came up and kicked them in the gonads.
I come from a United supporting family. And yet if they heard any other so called United fan saying anything about either tragedy, they’d have no problem in giving said offender an ear bashing.
Essentially a perfect summary Michael. I myself have commented something similarly at length on the previous blog post. I would implore Scott the Red to respond. I am intrigued as to what his genuine stance would be on reflection.
Great post, Michael! Really sums it up…
Some of them said that because of us 5 years of English football were dead and buried, but during that 5 years also, we had one of our greatest sides and we could have ruled Europe once again by then instead of AC Milan.
Football always comes first, those who keeps relating ‘killing’, and anything which related on people’s lives should be ashamed of themselves.
WELL PUT.Mr Owen.
Well said.
There was an interview with Rob Smyth (of the Guardian Newspaper) by Scott The Red (aka “therepublikofmancunia”) posted on the “therepublikofmancunia” website on the 19th August.
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/rom-interview-with-journo-rob-smyth
I couldn’t help but notice that (encouraged by Scott the Red) Rob, quite rightly, condemned the “Munich” chants made by a minority of idiots at a recent SOS event.
And yet, Rob seemed more than happy to associate himself (and the Guardian for that matter) with a website that openly sells badges, t-shirts (and underwear!) celebrating and exploiting the deaths of 39 football fans at Heysel?
He seemed more than happy to cosy up to a man who openly admits to singing and chanting about 39 people dying at a football match.
http://images.google.co.uk/images?gbv=2&hl=en&sa=1&q=republikofmancunia+without+killing&btnG=Search+Images&aq=f&oq=
The question that should be put to Rob Smyth of the Guardian is: in his mind, as a Manchester United fan and a writer for a national newspaper, do the feelings and sensibilities of the relatives, friends and survivors of those who died at Heysel in 1985, matter less to him and other Manchester United fans, than the feelings of the relatives, friends and survivors of those who died in the Munich air crash in 1959 or at Hillsborough in 1989?
The recently reported sale of a t-shirt in a Manchester Sports shop stating “96 is not enough” was roundly condemned and rightly brought censure from all quarters, including the vast majority of Manchester United fans.
Therefore does Rob Smyth of the Guardian not find Scott The Reds contemptible memorabilia and taunts about Heysel equally offensive?
Where do the likes of journalists like Rob Smyth draw the line?
i dont understand why the blame at hilsborough cant be traced to source before any grounds staff police or any one can be blamed for mistakes they made lets remember none of these people would have made mistakes if the ticketless fans who travelled to the game knowing they would try to get in one way or another had not forced there way into the ground, they sold enough tickets so everyone with a ticket could watch the game comfortably so the bottomline is ticketless fans crushed and killed there own all other errors were just part of a chain reaction starting from here, funny how no one mentions how the mancs are taunted by liverpool fans regarding Munich an Accident not a murder