What I Learned from Luis

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As a recently jilted supporter (as all us Reds are), I can be forgiven for being a bit cynical towards the modern footballer and his increasingly selfish patterns of behavior. Perhaps the degradation of professionalism and mutual respect in the player/supporter “relationship” is what made me sit up and take notice at Luis Suarez’s emotional Ajax farewell. Regardless of the negative platform for my interest, there are several truths to be taken from this class act…

  • Luis Suarez has a sense of perspective. He would not have returned to Ajax to say his goodbyes if he did not feel a debt of gratitude for the club (and what it did for his career) and the supporters (and their unconditional support). It is clear to see which players feel a connection to the club(s) they represent and which players merely collect pay-cheques.
  • A gesture like that is a demonstration of traditional values. Now that the old regime has been tossed out of courtrooms on either side of the Atlantic Ocean kicking and screaming like petulant children, the “Liverpool Way” has become the modus operandi once again. With King Kenny back at the helm and his first signing demonstrating such class and professionalism, we have shed the circus tent that Hicks and Gillett were so determined to erect over Anfield.
  • Mr. Suarez will forge a deep bond with the Liverpool faithful. It is obvious how much he meant to Ajax supporters, and after watching him play, it is even more obvious why. He’s all action, and I can’t picture him sulking about the pitch when things are not going according to plan. Adversity will make him all the more determined – at times perhaps overly-determined to the point of suspension – but to me, that’s better than the alternative sulk.
  • When /if he leaves us, it will be a much classier affair than the one we have just been through. This subject has been covered at length, so I’ll just leave it at that.
  • Actions speak loudest. Yes, that old cliche. A player can answer all the guided questions he wants on a club’s media outlet, hire a ghostwriter to prosaically bat his eyelashes at a club’s supporters in an autobiography, and kiss all the badges he’d like; but what Mr. Suarez did this weekend trumps all of those.

So, thank you, Luis. Thank you for showing me that not all footballers are horribly out of touch. Some are capable of acting in a manner befitting of adults. And, in a way, no thanks; for making it that much harder to understand the next time a multi-millionaire acts like a spoiled brat.

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  1. The bitterness about the fact that Nando left us is all over this article like a rotten smell. Torres perhaps wanted to leave, we let him go, no player is bigger than the club. I think the classy thing to do as fans is move on and wish him the best for the future taking into consideration all he did as a servant of LFC.

  2. Wow! What a difference between the two scenarios! Luis’ fantastic farewell by and to the fans, compared to Nando’s exit. He left and never looked back – not even to say goodbye! Which leaves a better taste in the mouth!

  3. Why are people praising Suarez for this and using it as another point to damn Torres? Torres did the same thing Suarez did when he left Atletico, or do you not remember that? He lied, he’s no longer a Liverpool player, lets get over it. And next time when a player comes in talking up Liverpool and saying we’re the best club ever, how about we not naively believe every word he says.

  4. He was banned for biting a player and cheated Ghana out of the World Cup semi final place. Hardly a saint. Showed some class against Wigan but still too many fancy flicks and dives. Will need to step up from his Dutch league performances cos he’ll not have the same time and space in the Premierleague. hopefully he’ll score a lot of goals. The United game will be his 1st real test, hopefully Andy Carroll will play then too. Suarez being a man of dignity and honour is important but I’m not bothered about his character as long as he’s banging in the goals.

  5. wonderful piece of writing mate… torres was my fav 1 after SteV n Jamie in the reds jersey, so I was all the more hard-gutted not at the fact dat he left but the way he did… wishing him all the best tho… n yet here I am just trying to imagine el nino’s face if he happened to read this article !!

  6. Jilted supporters are we ?

    The club has excommunicated us has it ?

    You need to get in touch with yer masculine side mate coz yer reading like a fashion victim Hairdresser that has only recently became aware of the goings on in the top flight of English Football .

    The rest of us are however FOOTBALL fans , we Support Liverpool Football Club & we do not dress up in drag online & post about being “Jilted” whenever THE CLUB decides to cash in on an under performing asset with the good of the CLUB in mind , even if that particular asset happens to be a certain types among us favorite homosexual fantasy of whatever it is has you behaving this way because it sure as hell wasn’t his big game presence or performances over this past season & a half .

    The club has acted in the best interest of the club & therefore its Supporters .

    This isn’t some niche section of society , this is the general population & I suggest you take yer pink tainted postings to websites who cater for minority & niche lifestyles because I’m just about starting to feel sick at the implications of your post .

  7. It was very emotional to hear the Ajax fans sing ‘You’ll never walk alone’. How great and fantastic of you to have shown your debt of gratitude towards such a loyal lad in the name of Luis Suarez!!
    We should do the same for Nando.. and deep inside I have a feeling that sooner rather than later Luis will be the idol of thousands of us….because of his commitment, high level dedication and fighting spirit he has shown us in just two matches that he has played for us…

    God bless you both Luis and Fernando !!!

  8. Who tha hell do you support OOM ?

    God bless Torres !!!!!???????????????

    What about God Bless Terry ?

    Or God Bless Lampard ?

    Or perhaps God Bless Kaloue or however ya spell that shit players name ?

    Its them or us , ya can only support one club & players not at our club who are in direct competition with our club should be publicly slagged off until such time they lose their international place , their club gets relegated & they come crawling back to us on hands & knees begging to train with us while they desperately try to find a new club as a free agent !

    To hell with Torres !

    To hell with Chelsea !!!

    Shape up or ship out !

    Liverpool Football Club Forever !!!!!

  9. Right lads CAN WE MOVE ON FROM FERNANDO TORRES . Hes gone doesnt play for us anymore and definetely doesnt read all the liverpool fans forums to find about how we feel about him . He was a great player who passed through and is now an ex player comparing every action of his with that of our current players is becoming monotonous and pathetic . Fair play to luis for going back and a very sporting gesture by the ajax fans take note ” that is the way to keep your dignity as a supporter of your club . Lets have more of that at anfield .. Applaud fernando if he comes back then sing for our own players

  10. Yea lets applaud him for all the winners he hit in quarter’s , semi’s & finals .

    Lets applaud him for his never say die spirit that lifted us leagues .

    Its not like hes just another in a long line of foreign Journey men that have passed through the club that helped us to win nothing at all is it ?

    Huh ?

    Even Fernando Morientes helped us win a Cup .

    Torres will get fair treatment from us , namely a Chorus of “Youre Shit & you Know You Are” everytime he touches the ball against us & the only applause he will hear is the applause our players get for going through him as a short cut each & every time he thinks about scoring against us .

    He deserves no more or no less for making mugs outa all the Kids that put their faith in him .

  11. well its all about opinions. personally i would only ever boo one ex player and thats el hadji djoufe .. will singing abuse at torres bother him .nah not one little bit . what it will do is make us as liverpool fans look bitter , cliched and pathetic . Kenny is bringing back the liverpoool way , respect dignity and not washing our dirty linen in public shouldnt we as supporters be doing the same . steven gerrard says he was gutted when torres left , “he was my mate” but stevie says he respects him and hes captain of our club so i reckon if there was a grudge to bear then hed bear it . re the kids what about all the little geordie kids who bought andy carrol shirts . a local lad one of their own a true geordie hero playing for his home town club . how do they feel ???

  12. What happens if Suarez does the same in two or three years. Are we the best fans in the world as we keep saying. If we are we let the Torres thing GO. He was the best player we had. He’s not with us anymore.Move on. I have. And also wish him all the best. Choice betwen the mancs or the chavs wining the title i’d pick the chavs with Torres. I will allways remember him for fantastic goals he scored for us. Gracias El Nino.

  13. I think it is time to move on. Although yabba dabba doo’s views are extreme, he is basically right. How would you feel if nando scored the winner against us in the final of a cup game??? You have to show your loyalty to your club first then to the players who wear the red shirt.Ex players get respect if they respected the club and the red shirt. Unfortunately, nando does not fall in this catagory. He sold out to a rival club. I hope Agger puts another elbow in his face to remind him of that.

  14. I dont remember Carroll refuting rumors he was going to move during Newcastle worst start to a season in over 50 years .

    I dont remember Carroll publicly pledging his future to the club more than once in a season that seen Newcastle have their worst start in over 50 years before handing in a transfer request the first time the Club turned down an offer for him .

    On top of that I didnt see Carroll moving to a smaller club then insulting the Newcastle fans simply for more money .

    What Gerrard or any of our staff think of Torres is their concern , he ripped off Kids that put their faith in him by lying to them publicly on at least 3 separate occasions this season & now the dust has settled its as plain as day he deliberately underperformed this season in order to engineer a move away from the club .

    Torres is a Rat & our Kids deserve better than to be misled by penny chasing Rats .

    We have Legends & Role models at our club who know not to incite hatred or stupidity in the community & our Club Captain Steven Gerrard is one such Legend & Role Model .

    And by the way , thank you for showing your true colors by trying to cast aspersions upon Andy Carroll’s character before he has even kicked a ball for us .

    It might not be clear who you really support but it is really very clear that you do not support Liverpool Football Club .

  15. macdarippa ,

    How dare you suggest that my views are extreme ?

    Please explain how pantomime Chanting in a sporting arena with a 100 year + tradition of pantomime chanting is extreme ?

    Or for that matter explain how firm challenges upon an ex player returning to a former club is extreme given that there is a 120 year + tradition of firm challenges upon players returning in opposition to the home of his former fans that paid his wages in association Football ?

    My views are nothing more than factual & pragmatic & I dont see how you can slur my name with accusations of extremism simply for calling a spade a spade & giving the view point of a common lifelong supporter who happens to live in the real world .

  16. Oh my word, if there are any real liverpool fans running this site please take down Yabbadabbadoos posts.

    He is a complete EMBARRASSMENT to the rest of us!!!!

    YNWA (unless ur a twat posting comments that bring this proud club into disrepute!)

  17. @Tony. Suarez didn’t cheat against Ghana, it’s a shame that you think that… Maradona cheated, Henry did too… Suarez just blocked the ball with his hands openly in front of the referee. Suarez sent off and penalty… He was not to blame that the Ghanaian missed the penalty kick.

  18. Come on you lads, move on ,Nando did , the only difference is he is £5mil reacher!and having a laugh.
    Oh yes what bullshit will you come up with if you mrs left for a richer man with a fatter wallet? be grateful for all the BJs you got? I don’t think so.
    MOVE ON NAN WHO!

  19. Embarrassment to who , duffer ?

    You & yer girlfriends that know nothing about the history of the club , its pedigree or “The Liverpool Way” .

    We are an institution not the fabrication of the Mass Media industry , we are eternal while fair weather fans like you & fair weather paycheck chasing players like Torres blow in & blow out .

    It is you who is a disgrace to our club & your like are symptomatic of the disease of medocricy & self loathing that has been festering at our great club since our last Title .

    I know who those that were lost at Hillsborough would agree with & I know once you develop half a brain you will be ashamed of yourself that you put wannabe Princess Players ahead of the clubs soul .

    Shame on you .

  20. Ah, my favorite — the internet forum holier-than-thou type. FFS, why didn’t EOTK announce that “YabbaDabbaDoo” has the final say of whether a person is a true LFC supporter or not? Comments attacking other supporters’ allegiances show that one person is much more “jilted” about Torres than anyone else commenting on this post. YNWA, Yabba!

  21. B

    Why should they announce it ?

    Surely if you have a valid point you will stand your ground , state it & defend it ?

    Otherwise you will just by skipping along parading your limp wrists & complaining & disgracing the clubs image .

    Naming no names , * Cough * B * Cough* duffer* Cough*

    Scuse me , had a frog in my textual throat for a second there .

    I made no comment to or about you & any comment I made to anyone else is theirs to accept or defend themselves against.

    So do us all a favor Mary Poppins , go take yer Nanny of the Year routine elsewhere , its a mans game we are discussing here not the hurt internet feelings of soft lads like you .

  22. yabba your views are extreme because you will attack anyone who does not share your OPINION. That is what extremist are. You are even content on slating your own fellow supporters. Even if it means mentioning Hillsborough. This started of as an article about a players loyalty and integrity and your turned it into a reason for blasting everyone. Well I guess that most of the people on this forum do not agree with your OPINION.
    I think you need a hug or something. It is only football, after all…
    Calm down.

  23. Dear me1 I think the heartless sod who pinched yabba dabbado’s teddy bear should return it immediately and he can then lie down in a darkened room. His little heart needs time to settle down. All that unprompted homophobic bile must have left him a little drained. Sonny you are perfectly entitled to disagree with Braedyn but schoolyard sexual insults? Methinks the laddie doth protest too much! Damn you’ve got me at it now!

  24. Ah lads dont stop now, i was really enjoyin that, yabba my man you are a patient !! good crack tho. FT looks like he regrets his decision from what i’ve seen of him, an Suarez is defo a class act. YNWA

  25. mcdarippa ,

    I have attacked nobody & expressing ones disgust at someones attitudes publicly voiced is nothing more than responsible behavior when those attitudes both reflect badly upon our great club & those of us who are genuinely a part of the soul of the club .
    Its called leadership not extremism & its clear that you are scraping the bottom of the barrel in your pathetic attempt to save face .

  26. James Quinn ,

    I didnt post a single word to or about you so I dont know why you are directing your detached foppish “Isnt the world ever so gay” comments towards me .

    I made no comments that where pathological in anyway shape or form let alone an attack on any niche or minority sexual lifestyle .
    I pointed out that there are websites that cater to & for homosexuals to express themselves & their minority niche opinions & that here in the general public is no place to be doing it because I found the implications of his comments sickening .
    By your reasoning that because I am disgusted by dog shit I have a pathological fear of it or by expressing my disgust for it I am somehow attacking those that love it , your reasoning is beyond ridiculous it is perverse & it is malicious .

    This is a place for LFC fans to express their love of the club not a place for those who indulge in a minority niche sexual life style to pursue an agenda to inflict their minority & niche opinions upon the general population .

    I pointed out that the club has in no way excommunicated us so there is no way we could be “Jilted” unless of course he was referring to his un natural fantasy relationship with a player our club decided to get rid of .

    For you to attempt to to pervert that into an attack upon those who pursue a minority or niche sexual lifestyle is despicable .

  27. Difficult to know where to start.. How to respond to that alhphabetti spaghetti projectile vomit of yabbadabba doo.I can only assume he has genuine mental health problems or is trying to create some sort of internet “personality’
    If the former i wish him well. If the latter ,go away and leave the space for genuine Liverpool fans to discuss issues which matter most to us and our beloved club!¬

  28. James Quinn ,

    Firstly , without so much as an introduction you launched an unprovoked , unjustified & totally unwarranted attack upon me , a complete stranger who has never typed a word to or about you , accusing me of behaving in an anti social manner & having a pathological fear of homosexuals & now that I have responded to your spiteful venomous lies you accuse me of being a disingenuous supporter .

    You are obviously a prejudiced lowlife that needs locking up .

    Thankfully before your malicious false accusations all my posts have been in relation to the Club , everyone can see as much & everyone can see you as the scum you are .

  29. I’m back my dearest friends. I respect the opinion of all of you. But please let us not try to be too emotional about some players leaving and others arriving. Let us hope not, but Suarez may also leave us (like Nando )in a few years’ time if (I hope I’m wrong!!) we end up getting nothing like has been the case for the last few years, since our FA cup in 2006.They are all humans after all, with their own aspirations. Only Gerrard and Carragher(and a few others) have LFC blood flowing in their veins. You cannot expect that with all of them who come to play for us.
    Anyway, just want to tell you I’m in Mauritius, a tiny island in the Indian Ocean, but I feel the same emotions as all of you who are at Anfield week in and out.Before I die, I only wish to experience the electric atmosphere at Anfield at least once in my life. It’s only present at Anfield and nowhere else in the whole world!!

  30. I bet yabbadabba can’t even play football. I bet he was the type that was picked last in school and even then was only picked to even the teams and play in goal. That’s why he gets his own back by trawling thru the comments made and spending half a day replying. Gotta be a cartoon character like the name suggests.
    I’ll log in later to see what he said about that.

  31. Its clear macdripa has now resorted to attempting to play to the reader in the hope of covering up his shameful behavior .

    I say attempting because I hope the average reader is aware he has about as much humor as cancer & as much charisma as a cardboard box as his attempts to tar me with the brush of his own failings reveals .

  32. it is also clear that if you could play any type of football you would have defended that point, as you did every other point. As you didn’t, I know you can’t. So therefore your opinion means nothing to me.
    Cheers.

  33. And it is also very clear that because the big hand is 40 minutes past the hour that the teddy bear on the corner thinks its time to ask the man on the moon if Macdrippa is a natural born idiot or if he actually has to make an effort to be that stupid .

  34. you still cant play football. You replied three times but did not defend yourself when I accused you of not being able to play football.
    get in goal.
    ps. it takes one to know one.
    muggy mug mug.

  35. Macdrippa appears not to realize his idiotic accusations have left him with so much egg on his well slapped face that he has zero credibility & that there is as much need to defend against his fantasys as there is to man mark Shola Ameobi .

    So show us your medals macdrip or otherwise dry yer eyes & quit boo hooing all over this thread like its yer time of the month .

  36. Wayhay thats more like it lads, now that is CRAIC, whats all this shite about Yabba not bein a football player, neither is Maxi an i bet the hoors more loaded then us.

    Anyway come on the Mighty Reds tonight YNWA

  37. stemac ,

    I was tempted to use N’gog as the example instead of Shola Ameobi but then it dawned on my that the transfer window is closed , Carroll is injured & Suarez is ineligible & Pacheco is 3 foot tall weighing 45 kilos & we are in the knock out stages of a European Competition & that Kenny’s job is hard enough without me giving the opposition a green light to attack the quality of our squad .
    All of a sudden N’Gog became one of the best young players in Europe & I’m sure if you look at it again you will realize Maxi is an excellent , very intelligent 2 touch pass n move player that is handy with both feet from either flank , makes intelligent forward runs making space in & around the box & is well capable of putting a finish on a passing move .

    Kenny is back , he is the best in Europe , it is impossible for Liverpool to do better than Kenny Dalglish as 20 years of trying & failing to replace him has proved .

    Its time for us to close ranks & support like we are blind to anything that doesn’t wear a LFC jersey .

    We are gonna finish in the top 4 this season & we are gonna win a cup , because we have a manager who is a magician & top quality highly experienced internationals who all love playing for him .

    Craic or no craic the club comes first & as long as me & you have fingers & an internet connection we are in Liverpool Football Clubs starting 11.

    Know what I mean ?

    Good Lad .

    Now isnt that Maulada at Chelski shit ? Overhyped crap like him makes me glad Maxi is at our club , they made hard work of beating the Danes I thought , Can see the Vikings upsetting the apple cart at a complacent Stamford Bridge in the return .

    My selection tonight would be a Kenny special of a 3 5 1 1 .

    I’d have Renia , then Carra & Agger on either side of Big Skrtel , Kelly & Johnson as the wingbacks with Maxi & Meriles either side of Lucas in Midfield with Cole playing just behind Kuyt who with his excellent 1’st touch , experience & intelligence I’m expecting everything we play forward to either stick to him or be laid off to one of our attacking midfielders marauding forward in support of him .

    The knock out stages of the only competition we are still capable of winning are no place to be motherly to young players as far as I’m concerned & if we need to rest players at West Ham when we should have Gerrard & Suarez available , we will cross that bridge when we come to it .

    Its time for the big guns as far as I’m concerned .

  38. YabbaDabbaDoo

    Nice to see the team passing forward at every oppertunity, miereles seems to thrive in that atmhosphere, nothing worse then seeing sidways and back passing till it gets to the keeper an then the big hoof, it happened a lot lately, that aint possesion football thats running away. Kenny seems to have got that out of them already. so good to look forward to games again, an hold your head high. Kenny is a God as far as i’m concerned, he’s brought everyone together.

    Aye i’d like to see Cole get more game time now, i always thought highly of him and would love to see him succeed at Anfield. Young Kelly has been a revalation this year as well, awesome for such a young lad, cant wait to see Carroll in the Red, he’ll be a monster !!

    I cant understand why the pundits/so called experts totally write off our top 4 prospects, I think we’ve a great chance, an every chance in the Europa league.

    YNWA

  39. Oh Yeah I forgot, malouda’s a diving overpriced cheatin twat, he’d fit in well at the theatre of delusions

  40. stemac
    Its fashionable to play kick & rush football to cater to players with poor match intelligence but good athletic ability , a player that can run fast with a ball but not deliver consistent quality is considered a better player than a skillful player that can dictate a game by making the ball do the work because the advertisers say so , Money from TV rights pay the wages so its the ugly political reality of the world we live in that we have to watch sub standard over hyped players like Nani , half the man city squad , Kalou & Maluda be presented to us as top players while genuine top quality players like Robben are sent abroad & indigenous quality players are forced to play in the lower leagues or semi pro . Scumbags like Arsend Wegner has ruined British football by destroying their youth system & buying in dirt cheap average teenagers from abroad at the expense of home grown players , he even bought in Ramsey & Walcott , only Wilshire has came through under him . Arsenal are cheapskate thieving scumbags raping the future of the British game & the sooner they are relegated the better , I hope Alex McLeish rips their throat out at Wembley on Sunday . Ireland & Scotland have stopped qualifying for tournaments & England are only qualifying & no more while Wales have lost hope all together .
    Its not right .

    Proper possession football is patient , ya make em chase shadows , then make em sweat bullets defending their final third then make em chase shadows some more until they crack under pressure , make em defend 5 corners in a row , grind them down into dust , 90 minutes is a marathon not a sprint but I dont like the goal keeper hoof if it can at all be avoided because 90% of the time it just gives away possession & I never seen a team without possession score a goal .

    Kenny will have us firing on all cylinders again by the time the new season kicks off with a few Dalglish standard signings settled in we are gonna be top two next season , mark my words . I believe the new Yanks are gonna spend big & often to get the ball rolling . We could be looking at 8 top , top players arriving in the summer .

    I wrote a nice comment about him on this thread a few minutes ago

    http://www.empireofthekop.com/anfield/?p=29977&cpage=1#comment-48351

    Big Carroll is gonna be a superstar , if you remember the Italian Christian Vieri then you can picture what I see in my minds eye , Carroll is only 22 & already plays like a 28 yr old Vieri , it will be a bad season he doesn’t hit 25 goals from set plays into the box & penalty kicks alone .

    Put a clever player & excellent finisher like Suarez next to him & ya could be looking at the premierships first 60 goal per season partnership .

    The future looks bright , the future looks Kenny !

    Big Kelly is like a Carra clone with added pace !

    Well done the scientists on that one !

    He is gonna be a phenomenal CB in 2 or 3 seasons but has 2 phenomenal CB in front of him in Agger & Skrtel who are both only entering their prime at 26 , not to mention Carra showing no signs of fading .

    We got one hell of a back line & the 19 year old Wilson looking like a 25 year old Hansen muscling his way in too , we got genuine competition for places back there .

    I’d like to see a senior , proven LB come in , someone like Baines who is gonna give us consistency there without putting kids under the microscope or asking players to play outa position coz if a Liverpool player sneezes on the pitch he gets crucified in the press , which is all London based & all of em want to work for Sky or the News of the World all owned by Murdoch who owns the Sun that printed the sickening lies about Hillsborough . Forget about even handed fair reporting , that went out once Murdoch bought the Football rights . Hes playing God ,

    http://www.footballforums.net/forums/showthread.php/164266-Hillsborough-The-Sun-Newspaper?s=bdf1408c4e202410681cbee2009abee0&p=3166382&viewfull=1#post3166382

    Hit the mute button & dont listen to em , have faith in Kenny coz he knows they are all against us & he knows how to handle em & stand em on their heads .

    YNWA !!

  41. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm ,

    Kooks to me like a 4 man back line with Agger & Kyrgiakos in the middle with Wilson & Kelly as Full backs .

    As for the midfield & Forwards ?

    Could be Poulsen & Lucas deep with Kuyt & Cole either side of Meireles with N’Gog up front alone .

    Or a standard 4 4 2 with N Gog & Kuyt up front with Meireles & Cole on the wings

    Or a Kenny Special with Poulsen deep , Lucas , Meireles Cole & Kuyt ahead of him with NGog up front alone …

    Or Poulsen deep , Meeireles & Cole either side of Lucas with Kuyt in the hole behind N Gog

    Or none of the above !

    Glad I’m not Spartas manager trying to defend against Kennys Tactics !

    Liverpool: Reina, Kelly, Wilson, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Meireles, Lucas, Poulsen, Kuyt, Cole, Ngog.
    Subs: Gulacsi, Pacheco, Jovanovic, Maxi, Carragher, Spearing, Skrtel.

  42. We need two or 3 players to put their foot on it & slow it down a bit .

    We started with the intent of catching them cold with quick breaks on the right with big Kellys strength & pace & by releasing Cole on the left , trouble is we forgot to play ball in between !

    We need to relax & knock it about a bit better in between looking to put a finishing move together .

    Maybe Maxi for NGog & push Kuyt further up the pitch & Carra for Poulsen & go 3 at the back ?

    They arent a bad side but we should be putting more quality together in & around the box & quit being too direct , In Kuyt , Cole Meireles & Maxi we have enough quality to slice em up in the final 3’rd .

  43. Nope .

    4 4 2 with NGog & Kuyt up front & Miereles & Cole wide ,

    I can see Kuyt making something happen up there.

  44. Nerve wracking stuff !

    We knocked it about better in the second half with Carra , Spearing & Lucas showing their worth in particular but Its gotta be the Flying Dutchman for MOTM with a long deserved & long overdue goal, showed the benefit of mature tactical & technical excellence & experience , he showed some proper quality in the final third & had an excellent 2’nd half .

    Phew !!!!!

  45. jeez glad to get the win in the end, think we deserved it tho, Big Kyrgiakos had a good game, unlucky not to get a goal, showed good bravery, Carra steadied the ship well and was very unlucky to get a yellow when Sparta were fouling every 2 mins. Delighted for Kuyt gettin his goal, well deserved. Still think if Cole gets to match fitness he can be a big addition to the team as well. Thought Kelly had a great game, hope he didn’t get too bad a knock.

    Nice on Kenny, onwards an upwards YNWA

  46. Kenny seems to like Kyrgiakos when he is expecting a physical game . He took a few knocks last night & made a few decent challenges & was always a threat from set plays .
    My take on Cole is he is frustrated & is trying too hard .
    If Kenny gets through to him , relaxes him & gets him enjoying his football Cole is a top quality player .
    However with Maxi Meireles & even Kuyt offering more consistent quality options around Gerrard & Lucas Cole needs to snap outa it pretty quick or accept a role as a reliable squad man we can turn to when any of the above are out .
    Thankfully we aren’t dependent upon any one player & can afford to choose players on form & not price tag or reputation & we have a manager both brave enough & strong enough to do so .
    I think Coles main concern is Meireles , they are very similar players & Raul has better versatility on the pitch with better defensive quality’s & as his beautiful through ball to Ngog last night proved possibly even better attacking quality’s .
    Its called competition for places & Cole needs to step up & Challenge & quit waiting on tha sympathetic arm around the shoulder , this isnt the West Ham youth set up , this is the most successful club in Britain & you are either an addition or you are an ex player , its tough at the top & better players than Cole have left Liverpool FC . One way or another he needs to improve & quick , we have a mountain to climb if we are to rescue something worthwhile from this season & he isnt a foreigner that needs a mother to babysit him for a season until he settles in , he should have kicked into gear by now & is on the verge of being accused of taking the piss .
    We are a pass n move two touch side & he is a 29 year old highly experienced League & cup winning Domestic international , on his worst day he should be able to fit in even at left back & do a top quality job for the team but looks like he may be trying to be the housewife’s favorite & is looking for sympathy & special treatment .
    He has a lot to prove .

  47. If anyone can get Cole going its Kenny, just the thought of him ripping through defences only a few years ago makes me want him to get it together and quick. He’s gonna have to get the finger out sharpish tho. Few more matches an you never know. He’ll never displace Miereles tho, pure class

    Wasn’t overly inpressed with Ngog last night, dont think he has what it takes. be good to see Stevie G an Suarez back in the team, and hopefully Andy Carroll before long.

    What about that Repka twat last night, dear oh dear

    YNWA

  48. Repka is Repka , he does what opponents do , we gave him enough to worry about & that is the main thing . I found him comical as I did Cole’s header & a few of N’Gogs efforts .

    A few clubs turned n’gog down in the summer because he wouldn’t accept less than £40,000 per week & now the transfer window is closed its a case of make do & mend until such time we can improve the squad .

    Gerrard like Carra is a massive player for us .I f he is our heart then Carra is our liver long over a season its hard to see how we could do without em .

    When them two are around nobody has to look far for an example of leadership & I expect big Andy to be very similar in 3 or 4 years , hes already a big inspirational character on the pitch with his courage , strength & cool nerve .

    I’m really excited about him & Suarez playing together with Gerrard & Meireles behind em If we sign Robben , Downing & Bale in the summer to give us wide options we wont be far away from being amazing .

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